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How to keep away from gay?

The post title is a phrase someone googled to get to my website today. Depending on what definition of gay they meant, I might be able to help them. Today I managed to avoid all possible happiness, so they were right on with that one. I’m sure I also avoided homosexuals, but not on purpose; it’s just that I was home most of the day, and when I went outside it was cold and dark and there weren’t many people out there. They might have been gay, but when it’s that cold, isn’t everybody gay? Well, it wasn’t that cold, but it was scarf-wearing cold. Bright, stylish gay scarves.*

A while back I showed an online acquaintance a news article about how someone in the local tourism industry wanted funding to advertise to lesbians, because Vancouver is a popular vacation destination for the same-sex demographic. I was rather surprised to see him get upset over this news, since I assumed that most guys I knew were at least ambivalent to the existence of homosexuals, if not particularly for them. In fact, I don’t know how you can live in Vancouver and hate gays. I suppose that’s easier than living here and hating (for example) Asians, but that’s still a lot of pointless negativity, not to mention missing out on all the great restaurants on Davie Street.

I tried to find humour in what he was saying to me in response to the article, because it’s otherwise kind of depressing:

[him] why don’t you spend money for facilities for normal people? why transform this beautiful city into a place where you dare not leave your kids alone?

[me] what are lesbians or gays going to do to kids?
[him] I wouldn’t have the courage to leave even a 16-to-18-year-old boy walking on Vancouver streets
[me] why, because gangs of lesbians are going to attack him?

I couldn’t get a straight answer from him, nor could I get him to admit that homosexuality and pedophilia are not the same thing. He also thought it was wrong for gays to have or adopt children. Obviously he thinks being gay is contagious like rabies in dogs, that someone who’s gay is going to go bite someone else, who then becomes gay and bites other people, and then goes and pisses on a fire hydrant. Although instead of biting it would be butt sex, and right on the sidewalk (where it’s not safe for children to walk).

I actually like the idea of lesbian gangsters, but unfortunately my imagination ends there for anything that’s not a porn movie plot (I suppose A Clockwork Orgy might be a good reference in this case) (it’s hilarious). But, really, I wonder where the idea came from that gays would attack people in public and be, uh, violently gay at them? Maybe it was from some old world stories fathers would tell their sons to scare them into not masturbating in bed.

Now, I don’t mean to be intolerant myself in the sense that I’m intolerant of people who don’t tolerate what I do (like, I don’t want to be biased against racists, although it’s really hard and I can’t tell if I’m being hypocritical or not) but I wanted this guy to admit to being homophobic, and he didn’t think he was. In fact,

[him] I’m not an homophobic but everything has its limits

I had no answer to that.

*I always like to say a bunch of politically incorrect statements at the beginning of such a discussion, just to get it out of my system so that I don’t accidentally say something wrong later on. Like how I used to tease my one black friend about having grown up in the ghetto, and didn’t find out until months later that he actually did grow up in the ghetto, at which point I felt really bad but he figured he’d just told me about it already.

7 Comments

  1. D says:

    A Clockwork Orgy – hilarious!
    So was this guy from Chilliwack or Alberta or something? I always imagine intolerant people as having emerged from a trailer park in the backwoods somewhere. Banjo music plays in my head when they speak.

  2. donna says:

    oy. Anyone who has to say “I’m not ” may want to re-examine that particular description… cuz if you’re *really* not, you probably don’t have to say it.

    as a half-queer, I totally approve of roving gangs of lesbians, and would gladly put myself in their way to save my less-queer friends from being ravaged. I’m just that giving.

  3. the jerk says:

    I have seen this movie I think a clockwork orgy movie night is in order. I have the tv/livingroom if you have the popcorn

  4. gillian says:

    @D: He was from Eastern Europe, I think.

  5. Chrissy says:

    Hmmm…..I’m not sure what to say. You make several good points, and you made me laugh a whole lot.

  6. Manninagh says:

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Gill, you are the most brilliantly hilarious person I know. And all in such a dry, understated manner. Pure genius, my friend. BTW, when you’re done with Clockwork Orgy, you might want to check out Foreskin Gump, White Men Can’t Hump, or the ever-popular Dickman and Throbbin’, which has yet to go out of style…

  7. Or Edward Penishands. Or maybe not.

    Anyway, this made me laugh:

    “I don’t mean to be intolerant myself in the sense that I’m intolerant of people who don’t tolerate what I do (like, I don’t want to be biased against racists, although it’s really hard and I can’t tell if I’m being hypocritical or not).”

    This is why I’m not fond of the word “tolerance” in this context. I don’t think we should simply tolerate (i.e. put up with) different types of people; rather, we should accept them at the very least. And I also think we should neither tolerate nor accept ignorant and hateful speech and behaviour. I prefer thinking of things in terms of the older-fashioned “prejudice,” i.e. we should not pre-judge people.

    In other words, there’s no reason we should, in advance, dislike Asians, or lesbians, or cat owners, or your associate as a (presumably) straight white guy. But when he starts spouting stuff like that, we *should* judge him, as ignorant.

    Martin Luther King Jr. wanted people to be judged not by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character. If their characters are shitty, we might want to figure out why, and maybe change them, or the circumstances that brought them to being that way — but we we should still feel free to judge them as such. “Post-judice” is entirely acceptable.

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